Beware of the WINTIDE LPG Anti-leakage Device syndicate
A good sunny Friday afternoon while I was enjoying a cup of hot steaming brewed coffee, a girl came asking if someone is home as they were from Safety Organization of the Philippines (SOPI) and wanted to discuss fire safety in our household - showed some fire hazards and even did an amazing demonstration of fire handling procedures with our gas stove and LPG tank. It seems to be an entertaining circus show that motivates you to think about your safety and get their products instantly.
Product Name: WinTide LPG Anti-leakage Device
Group / Organization: LM Safety Distributor
Mode of Syndicate Operation: These sales person, a lady at first (prolly because of the charming character) then after 5 minutes, 2 guys, well dressed and has ID will go after. They go and jump from one house to the other to "conduct" a survey about home fire safety. The survey results to finding out that you have an unsecured LPG connection. I presume if anyone does conduct surveys, they have a survey sheet that they fill up however these guys just have a notebook, no guide questions and just writes down your answer. They then inspects your household on how you connect your LPG tank to your gas stove then will then say that any moment from now, your house may be caught on fire because of this hazard.
They will do demonstration as to how to put out a fire just in case if the hose gets a fire - you will learn that you will either slide or flex the hose to cut off the gas source then turn off the gas valve. They bring in some hoses and categorized it as Category A, B & C and inform you that you have a garden hose and is not suitable for your gas setup. Their hose has a cut, connect it to your LPG then lit it and starts a 4 foot fire then they will easy slide up their fingers on the hole of the hose to put out the fire - then you get impressed.
As per SOPI or Safety Organization of the Philippines,
"Our organization has received numerous complaints or inquiries about the door-to-door activities of sales’ agents and other elements inspecting safety valves and hose connection of liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) tanks. These people were using the name and logo or our organization in favor of their activities.
Please be informed that SOPI as well as its members does not engaged and tolerate its members from knocking on people’s door in the guise of inspecting the safety valves and hose connection of their LPG tanks and alike activities.
This serve as a warning for persons, companies, and or entities who are using SOPI name without the consent of the organization."
Source: Official SOPI Facebook Page
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| The sales lady lights up the hose with a hole on it and turned on the LPG tank to demonstrate how to put out the fire. |
As a result of their fire safety investigation, they will inform you that you need to replace your hose immediately for your family's safety. They will tell you that you can get this Category A hose from LM Safety Distributor, and that you need to attend a 3 hour seminar first as this product is sold only to those who attended the briefing.
They will market that the product is from Japan and has great quality, the hose will cost you about Php 750.00 but if you will go to the seminar OR if you have an ID that you can present to them, it will cost you only about Php 450.00 - made me think why will you attend the seminar if you can just show your ID? Well, your ID? They will just take a picture and get your information - sounds legit eh?
Then after that, they will tell you that to add more safety to your LPG setup, you need a gas regulator. They will then again show you a demo of how this works - they will connect the regulator to your tank while connecting their hose with a hole on it. They will tell you that it the regulator then stops the tank from leaking out as it detects a hole on the connection. The device will cost you about Php8,000.00 but as a promotional offer, if you have an ID, they will get you a 30% off the price. If they see that you have a government ID, they can give it to you 50% or even 70% off the original price. It has a lifetime warranty and will show you the warranty card and they said that they will do a door to door service if it needs fixing.
Sounds legit?
My Realization.
If WinTide is a genuine product from Japan, it should be available on their website - http://www.rakuten.co.jp right? You cannot also locate any official website or Facebook page regarding this product. And when you check their receipt, they do not have the name of LM Safety Distributor, their DTI permit number or SEC Registration Number in there.
They don’t even have a Barangay permit that they can go round the houses to sell this product. I have called Brgy Tisa and informed them about this but they are completely unaware about this activities. I have verified with the local council of Cebu if they have permitted selling this product and informed me that they do not have.
What’s your thoughts?
house inspection lang na para makita unsa on pag saka sa inyo asa ka agi, modos na para maka solod sa inyo balay , check nila naa ba cctv . better be safe kay daghan modus karon
ReplyDeleteThis is what happend to us right now. I let him search their website but then it turns out he cannot search their site. So he search this wintide and then i read all these comments and now we know that they're a syndicate.they said theyre from davao de oro.
DeleteIt also happened to me just last week. Shit!
DeleteI agree. I dont entertain or trust these people mansad who sell products door to door.
ReplyDeleteThanks for writing something about this issue. But I think you should at least acknowledge my blog http://karmapulis.blogspot.com/2013/04/lm-safety-distributor-sindikato
ReplyDeleteHi! We also experienced the same thing. And they placed their equipment to our LPG tank. Is it advisable to remove it and replace our previous hose? I'm really worried about our safety.
ReplyDeleteJust last day i purchase this brand wintide anti leakage regulator amounting 4,998 with ñromo buy 1 take 1. All the strategy u've been said really happened to me during their demo.Of corz,i think of our safety so i buy 1.My question,do i still have to use this wintide anti leakage regulator,in which they prove in their demo naman na gumagana.Sayang nman pera ko.huhu.5K dn yon.
ReplyDeletengaun din may ganyan mudos nag house to house sila check daw lpg tas sa kahulihan ilalabas nila ung wintide for safety daw magnda daw un sa lpg kunyari.. un tsinek ko ok naman kaso walang serial number di ko na lang tinanong kunyari alang alam sa ganun...pinicturan ko na lang at sinabi nung isa sir bat mo pinicturan? un napa smile ako sobrang halata na kasi ung tanong nya...
DeletePonika the best brand. Wintide manloloko un.
DeleteNia sa Ginatilan ning nga tawhana na biktima ko ani kahapon..Wala manko kahibaw nga naa na diay taga Bureau of Fire Protection ang niare agsa miage nga nag inspect so wala unta ko biktima ani giahak.
ReplyDeleteUnsay brand kay naa pod naghouse to house dire samua ug nabiktima pod ko.balak nako iuli ang product wala jud nako gamita ang stove
DeleteKaalis lang talaga ng tatlong lalaki dito sa bahay namin and all that been said ay nangyari nga sa amin. Nag offer sila ng 3k plus ata yun na price ng wintide buti nalang di bumili ang mama ko. But is it ok or safe ba yung ginawa nilang mga demo?
ReplyDeleteIt the same on my case they visited me yesterday & demo & sell. Even installment basis my question to SOPI did i need to pay this fake item from japan they said ?
ReplyDeleteOh no kanina lng Meron dalawang girls nagdemo at syempre dahil natakot nman ako ayun naingganyo akong bumili 2890 price kc nagpromo daw cla regular price is 4800 daw may resibo clang binigay at location nila sa general Santos city.huli na nung mabasa ko mga feedsbacks dito .ngayon tinatry ko xang tawagan kasi gusto ko isuli pero ang sabi tapos nadaw naaudit at naipadala na sa gensan ang lahat ng kinita nila.nag away kasi Kami ng husband ko dahil don.naisip ko kung Hindi nila irerefund yung money ko pwede kaya to ireport sa pulis?
ReplyDeleteAno po name ng product
ReplyDeleteI was a victim too.. I'm from Panay I was trying to return the product and give back my money but it ended like they have so many reasons
ReplyDeleteThis day Lang tlga nangyari at this time andto pa sila sa bahay buti na Lang nag search agad ako about this product while Gina endores nila. And thankfully nabasa ko to and all the feedback. Lahat NG nkalagay Jan are true ung mga demo nila so Yun nga di kmi nkabili NG mama ko. Tumpak lahat dito nkasabi made from Japan the promotion etc. May ask ko Lang may demo Kasi sila at mkikita nman ung use nun. If it is modus sa anong particular sa price NG item or sa quality NG item na bka di safe. Thank you!
ReplyDeletee2 po ung price at nakito ko po facebook P1,500. check nyo po sir/mam https://www.facebook.com/khakhaonlineshop/
ReplyDeleteMagkano talaga ang price ng wintide brand safety device?
ReplyDeleteHuwag kayo bibili ng Wintide nila fake yon. Ponika brand subok ko na 5years na naming ginagamit.
Delete3990 wintide, sa shoppee
Deletehi. kahapon po may nagikot samin akala po namin taga census o kaya about sa bahay namin. ngask siya about samin ilan kami sa bahay so akala ko talaga taga census, tinanong niya san province ko and saan mga parents namin, dami niya kuda the, ngtanong siya about sa lpg tank namin pumasok sa bahay, ang ngcheck ngdemo and kalaunan, ayun , ayun may nilabas na wintide kemerut. ayun napagtanto namin na may ooffer siya ng product which is napakamahal 5k plus tas promo daw 4980 na . d kami ng dp kse wala talaag kaming pera ng brother ko. sabe niya mgpadala nalang daw ngayong araw tas ngsearch ako about sa product na to, kase namamahalan talaga ako sa product niya and then ito mga nabasa ko dito nakakaloka. modus pala yun. but d kami ng dp installment ang inooffer niya ngayon angdp 1k sa katapusan ung 1500 and oct katapusan ung 2480. tinext ko ung ngdemo taga PROSMA ENTERPRISES siya. senior branch manager daw siya. sabe niya hndi na daw pwede isauli. edi kami d na namin bbyaran . tatanggalin nlang namin d pa namn namn naggmit eh..
ReplyDeleteSadly nangyari sa akin 1700 yun down ko po kasi 2500 nlang daw po dahil sa discount, den naresearch ko about this issue di nako nag dag.x ng 800 kinabukasan tinext ko sila sinabi ko na may negative issue to sa overpricing. Ayun hindi na nila ako pinilit na ipadala yung kulang ko , na paparanoid lang ako kung safe ba yun oh hindi di ko tinanggal
ReplyDeleteNapakalungkot po na sabihin biktima po kami dto sa bahay just this afternoon dito po sa butuan city. Same modus po ang nangyari sa amin.
ReplyDeleteAng tanong ko po if it is safe po bang gamitin ang nilagay nilang safety device sa aming LPG tank?
Sa aking mga nabasang comments kami po ay naalangan na sa paggamit ng device na ito.
Please comment if this is safe to use inspite the price.
Thank you po sa sasagot.
Wala ba pwede sumagot kung safe gamitin padin yung nabili namin..hindi ko na po iniisip yung price..yung safety lang po namin...
ReplyDeleted ko alam kung nabiktima tlga ang asawa ko,,ganyan din nangyari my ngdemo at ngpalit ng regulator nmin worth 5500 dapat daw 12k un,rowigie trading ang nsa reciept,,anyone makapgsabi kung legit ba cla?
ReplyDeletejusko, late ko na nasearch at nabasa lahat dito, as in March 6 2020, ang akala ko lang ay mag bibigay sila informations regarding sa mga gas tanks and safety tips. Nagdemo sila at ang galing ng sales talk nila, una nila inintroduce yung class A hose daw which is iba sa lahat nang hose then pangalawa yung gas breaker daw kasi mas safe daw ito gamitin. nagsabi pa sila na makakabili lang kami nun kapag makapagseminar kami for 1 to three days sa kani kanilang branches daw. tapos maya maya nagbigay sila options regarding sa mga specialties kung may mga valid IDs daw kami, if sa seminar daw 6995 ang babayaran packages na sa hose at sa breaker, kung ngngayon daw is discounted daw, ang binigay nila price is 5000 pesos, na engganyo talaga kami, kaya naka avail kami. ang pangalan nang company nila ay Jalsygon Safety Gadgets Ventures, Main Office nila sa Cebu daw sa likod nang Cathedral.
ReplyDeletesabi pa, marami daw sila dito at mga iilang araw lang sila pwedi at promo daw.
Kaninang umaga kakagising ko lang anjan cla.kala ko kng sino taga j.m.gonzales enterprise daw.wintide na product na safety breaker ang sinasabi na tag7000 plus pero regulator na i-cook na may gauge ang kinabit.nakaalis na sila ng madiscover ko na overpriced sobra.galeng magdemo at ang galing ng mga chika-chika nila.nakakahiya mang aminin pero nabudol ako sa galeng ng sales talk.tinawagan ko ung agent.sinabi ko na isasauli ko ksi hndi naman pala safety breaker ang ininstall,i-cook regulator with gauge lng pala.sabi ko balikan nila ung product at isauli ung pera ko.di nakasagot,sa text di narin nasagot sa text.its definitely a scam.beware guys.
ReplyDeletenakahiya mang aminin pero nabudol din kmi ni husband ngayong araw. ang ganda mag sales talk at alam na alam with supporting documents at testimony sa kapit bahay nmin na nakabili last year. yun pala overpriced masyado, 4900 yong sa kapitbahay nmin last year sa amon benta nila 6396 ng jm gonzales enterprise. so sad, na na knina habang nag demo sila hnd ko ma search agad kasi masama signal ng data ko, sana nabasa ko ito. sayang ang pera, savi ng kapitbahay nami safe nman gamitin kahit iwanan mong bukas , almost one year na kanila.
ReplyDeleteWintide modus yan. Suerte kami sa PONIKA BRAND door to door din sila 5k ang bili namin pero worth it talaga 5 years na naming ginagamit at talagang buo pa at hindi pa cia nagmamalfunction kaya hinahanap ko ung agent kase bibili ulit ako.
ReplyDeleteNatapon ko kase ung certificate ko at resibo sayang di ko nasave contact number nila. Sana makita ko ulit sila para makabili ulit ako ng isa pa.
ReplyDeleteOmg! Just now may pumunta dito samen. Same lahat ng nabanggit. So ayun napabili din ako. Pero di wintide ibang name nakalagay sa resibo nila. Paano malalaman kung legit? Pwede kasi installment yung pagbayad.
ReplyDeleteKami din nakabili dn ngayon lang. Safe po ba gamitinto? Grabe mapabili ka talaga kasi makukuha ka talaga during demo nila tas ayon safety first dahil sa family mo. Ngayon ko lng nabasa mga negative comments. Huhu
ReplyDeleteWag po kayo maniwala sa mga ganyan.. May ibang brand lang yan sila na ibebenta sainyo.. Pag na idemo sainyo ng maayos at nakita nyo ung safety para sainyo wag kayo mag dalawang isip.. Pasalamat nga tayo Las may mga tulad nila nag iinspection sa lpg.. Na dapat ay trabaho ng safety org. Of the phil.. Shout out sa lahat ng nag checheck ng lpg salamat sa mga idea na binigay nyo
ReplyDeleteHi! Good evening! Same thing happened to me this morning sh*t hindi ata Wintide brand pero Melchsafe Trading daw company nila tapos in line daw sila sa government safety something tapos grabe ganda nga ng demo nila, tapos sabi pa nila sila din daw naglagay ng "gas breaker" sa mga kapitbahay ko tapos pati yung sa mga bureau of fire "daw" tapos paghingan ko ng permit ng company, cards, mga bumili wala naman silang naipakita, wala daw sila naka print HAHA 8,000 set na hose and gas breaker tapos bigay nila sakin 4995 pwede din daw downpayment na 3500 punta lang daw sa office nila. Buti nalang talaga nagtanong ako sa kapitbahay ko, naloko din sila sh*t kaya yon pinaalis namin, tapos 2 lang yung pinapasok ko tapos pumasok pa yung 3 ?!? grabe. Ingat po kayo!
ReplyDelete-Davao City
Kmusta po ok po ba ang gas breaker kc bago lng po cla galing dito...na install na pro d pa namin nabayaran
DeleteDavao city
Just now nkabili ako, huhu, now lang kasi nkaresearch after the agents went out the house
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Buti na lang hindi ako nakabili sa kanya... Ngayon Lang din may pumunta dito sa amin bgry 2 ilog negros occidental.. Talagang pinipilit ka na kumuha... Installment daw good for 4months..
ReplyDeleteNgayon lang po may ganyan dito sa iriga bicol kakatok at pakilala nla sa LPG sila yung pagka basa ko ng id KeepSafe trading
ReplyDeleteHeronimo merculio yung nag punta saken muntik na ako mabiktima buti dumating aswako. una price 4990 tapos may promo daw sila 3990 tapos kung may id ng citizens 3500 nlng daw. gago mag search ko ng company nla hnd nka registered sa DTI wla din sa business portal na kung nkarehistro at legit kaso wla eh. mga manloloko